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Post by Sandie on Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:41 pm

Great post Jim.

I too had my doubts about going after someone who didn't have PL experience but like you everything I've seen and heard since has impressed me a great deal. Even today's team selection which for me comes a lot closer to our best team after 4 days training than Sherwood managed in over a quarter of a season.
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Post by South London Villan on Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:47 pm

I think that the news headlines in the press will down play this as a dead cat bounce.

However, as most on here have believed if the right players had bee given a chance then we wouldn't be bottom of the league.

A good solid performance against the champions elect puts pressure on those who are within touching distance above. By trying to down play this result denegrates the achievements of Garde in assessing the squad at his disposal in such a short period of time.
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Post by Sandie on Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:51 am

I was thinking that about the press but whilst I did think that the MOTD highlights made the game look overly one-sided in fairness Jenas and Keown did analyse things fairly and even pointed out what a dramatic transformation it was from the previous manager.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:43 pm

We actually looked like we had the outlines of a plan yesterday. I think we will be able to get behind someone who actually knows what he's trying to do.
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Post by Sandie on Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:04 pm

Aye, it's all very positive.

I just hope it isn't a false dawn. They were times when both Sherwood and Lambert were exciting and we thought they were great based on their first couple of games. I think Remi has a bit more substance to him than those guys did but the point stands.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:55 pm

Lambert and Sherwood both sent out players to "express yourselves" which was a cop out.

Remi Garde has a belief in the kind of football he wants the players to play. It's up to him rather than the players as to how each match is played. This could be a turning point for Villa.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:39 pm

I wonder if Moyes had been sacked three weeks ago, would Remi Garde be our manager?
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Post by Sandie on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:39 pm

Good question.

I think the club fairly quickly decided that Garde was their man and if they perused other candidates I don't think Moyes would have been one. I don't think his being employed was a barrier to us appointing him. If you think there was a media suggestion that he was keen and if he was under pressure of the sack he would not have been difficult to tempt.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:35 am

I don't think Moyes would have been comfortable with our current squad. It's almost been designed for Remi Garde.
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Post by Sandie on Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:17 pm

So probably for the best.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-remi-garde-brought-10419785

Brad Guzan reckons Remi Garde’s composed and measured approach will benefit Villa in times ahead.

The Frenchman has already made an impact on the players and that was shown in the 0-0 draw with Manchester City at the weekend.

Garde, a renowned tactician, re-organised the under-performing side and made them hard to beat in his first game in charge.

In turn, Guzan kept his first clean sheet of the season, and is hoping for plenty more to come with Garde at the helm.

“He has brought a calm demeanour to training and to the dressing room,” said the USA international.

“I think you could see his demeanour on the side of the pitch. He has given the boys confidence and that belief.

“When you are at the bottom, you need all those things. You need that backing from the manager for the guys to go out and play well.

“Especially for some of our lads, he has given them a real boost.”

Those who are expected to be reinvented under Garde include Jordan Veretout and Jordan Amavi.

Both Frenchmen were used sparingly in former boss Tim Sherwood’s latter times in charge, but Garde will be looking to get the best out of them going forward.

“They are not back because they are French or I knew them,” said the boss.

“The team could be different next time.”

For Guzan, the most important outcome from the weekend was ending the losing streak of seven games.

“It was huge to stop the rot, going forward we know it is going to be a tough task we are still in the bottom three.

“We still need to fight and improve our performances. But this is a step in the right direction, we needed to stop the string of losing results. We needed to give ourselves a platform to go forward and something for us to build on.

“There are not many people in the country who have given us hope to get something against Man City and probably to avoid the drop. But hopefully this is the turning point for us.”
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Post by Sandie on Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:38 pm

Here's an interesting read on Moyes' time in Spain:

David Moyes: Where did sacked Real Sociedad boss go wrong?

The Basque side are marooned near the bottom of La Liga - they are above the relegation zone on goal difference - and a limp performance in Friday's 2-0 defeat against lowly Las Palmas was the final straw.

This is how his 364 days in charge went.

Why was he sacked?
After three days of speculation, the news was finally confirmed with a brief statement from the Basque club on Monday afternoon.

"Real Sociedad would like to thank David Moyes and [his assistant, also departing] Billy McKinlay for the professional conduct, commitment and dedication which they showed during their roles in the running of the first team," the club said.

"At the same time, we would like to wish them all the best in their future ventures, both professional and personal."

The Scot leaves behind a team marooned near the foot of La Liga, and a limp performance in Friday night's 2-0 defeat against lowly Las Palmas was the final straw.

The dismal display, as much as the result, forced club president Jokin Aperribay into holding crisis talks over the weekend.

Aperribay did not want to rush into a hasty decision on the back of one bad game, but even after the dust had settled a couple of days later he still felt that a change was necessary.

The official announcement was supposed to have been made on Sunday evening, but it was delayed for a few hours because Moyes's flight back to Bilbao from Manchester was cancelled.

But once he returned to Spain on Monday and met personally with Aperribay, there was no need to delay the inevitable any longer and the former Everton and Manchester United coach's spell in La Liga was brought to a swift end.

What was so bad about the Las Palmas game?
After La Real's recent struggles, the trip to Las Palmas was always billed as a significant encounter for Moyes's regime, but the general feeling was that his job was safe unless his team delivered a disastrous display.

Unfortunately for the former Everton and Manchester United boss, 'disastrous' is pretty much the right word to describe the way his team performed - or didn't - against a Las Palmas outfit which had previously only won one game all season.

The hosts were clearly superior, deserved their goals from Jonathan Viera and Sergio Araujo, and were rarely seriously threatened by Moyes's team. It took no time at all for furious criticism to emerge from La Real fans - along with serious demands for the manager's head.

Media and fans furious
Until Friday night, the majority of Real Sociedad fans were, while frustrated with their team's results and sceptical about Moyes's ability to turn things around, not yet ready to express outright hostility.

But that all changed immediately after the loss against Las Palmas.

'Moyes' was a trending topic on Twitter in Spain after the game, with very few of the accompanying comments offering sentiments of support. Indeed, many of them finished with the hashtag #MoyesDimision ('Moyes resign') or #MoyesVeteYa ('Moyes go now').

The media was similarly critical, with a summary of the game in local newspaper Diario Vasco complaining that "when this team takes one step forward, it takes two back", and adding that their efforts on Friday night had been directed by "impulse" rather than a clear plan.

As noted by Mikel Encinas, the editor of newspaper Mundo Deportivo's coverage of the club, the main cause of anger was not the result itself but "the image presented by the team".

Most damning of all was a comment piece by Diario Vasco's Inaki Izquierdo, who concluded that Moyes "still bears the impression of someone who has only just arrived and doesn't understand the club, the players, the league, the city, the opponents, the referees, the languages, the stadia, the timetables…"

Moyes himself accepted that Friday's performance was below standard, acknowledging after the game that "the players have to improve, and so do I".

However, he also refused to quit, insisting that he wants to stay with the club until the end of the season, when his contract was due to expire.

But Aperribay did not feel the same way and Moyes was fired on Monday.

Early optimism to sceptical indifference
Initially, the appointment of Moyes in replacing Jagoba Arrasate a year ago prompted enthusiasm in San Sebastian, especially when his first two months in charge yielded a creditable draw in the all-important local derby against Athletic Bilbao, and an improbable home victory over Barcelona.

But the early bout of positivity gradually subsided into indifference and by the end of last season, which saw La Real finish in 12th position, the jury was still out.

Fears that the team were destined for another season of struggle - despite a significant summer outlay in the transfer market (see below) - were further heightened by a mundane start to the new season which saw the team draw their first two games 0-0 and then lose 1-0 at Real Betis.

Starting the season without a single goal in 270 minutes was not exactly the way to get the fans onboard, and a 3-2 home defeat against Espanyol in the next outing put Moyes under more pressure.

Still, though, there was a widespread acknowledgement that the team's performances had deserved more: Espanyol's winner was a scrambled effort in injury time, and La Real had created chances to take at least a point from the game at Betis.

A 4-0 win at Levante at the end of October bought Moyes some more time, and although that was followed by a 3-2 home defeat by Celta Vigo, it was widely thought he would be given until Christmas at least.

But then came the debacle at Las Palmas.

Big spender
Whatever complaints Moyes may have about his time in Spain, insufficient backing from his board in the transfer market cannot be one of them.

Considering the size of the club and their relative lack of resources, Real Sociedad spent heavily in the summer to put the most expensive squad in the club's history at Moyes's disposal.

The biggest signing was midfielder Asier Illarramendi, who was brought back 'home' from Real Madrid after a disappointing couple of seasons at the Bernabeu for a club record fee of about £12m.

Another big money signing was Brazilian striker Jonathas, who had impressed last season with Elche, while the arrival of Portuguese winger Bruma on loan from Galatasaray was another which increased expectation.

The club's board also secured the services of highly rated young Argentine goalkeeper Geronimo Rulli, 23, who had spent the previous season on loan at the Anoeta and attracted serious interest from Valencia.

The team's failure to progress despite such a heavy outlay is likely to have been a major factor in the club's decision over the future of Moyes.

What next?
After their experiment with an overseas manager, Real Sociedad have quickly returned to their native shores by lining up Eusebio Sacristan as their next boss.

The former Spain midfielder recently left Barcelona after four years in charge of the club's B team, and his experience in developing young players will be crucial at a club which is reluctant to make more big waves in the transfer market.

But there is also plenty of pressure on Aperribay, who put a great deal of his personal reputation on the line by making such a big effort to snap up Moyes a year ago when a deal had already been drawn up to appoint ex-West Brom boss Pepe Mel (now back at Real Betis).

Many fans have included Aperribay in their criticism of Moyes, arguing that if the decision to appoint the Scot has proven to be erroneous, the man who made that decision should also be held responsible.

Moyes himself inevitably faces questions over exactly why he failed in Spain.

He will believe that he was unfortunate to be dismissed so early into the new season, and that the quality of players at his disposal was not good enough to meet the expectations of pushing for a Europe League place.

But he is already facing criticism for failing to make sufficient effort to integrate after failing to properly learn the language or develop relationships within his club, as well as claims that his tactical approach was not sophisticated enough in a league where team strategy is very important.

Whilst I knew he was doing badly there have to admit there is a few things there that I did not know such as how heavily he spent. Starting to look like we may have made the right call and I say that as someone who wanted Moyes.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:05 am

If you're a family man with four kids would you buy a Mondeo (Moyes)? Not if you've got any sense because it wouldn't do the job that you need doing. You'd buy an S max or a Galaxy, and then get on with your life.

Remi Garde is our seven seater! Very Happy
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Post by Sandie on Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:06 pm

Sherwood would be the Mustang that had just come in part-ex from a bloke in Tottenham, brash, flash and makes a nice noise but completely useless for your circumstances and you'd have to be a mug to buy it. You'd drive it for a while, struggling to fit the kids in before realising there's some serious mechanical problems with it.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:13 pm

Nigel Pearson would be a bright yellow Hummer!
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Post by South London Villan on Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:02 pm

Sherwood is the BMW M3 Cabriolet you buy just before the Mrs tells you she is expecting twins. You try and make it work but getting the double buggy in the boot with the change bags and shopping, two car seats that without the 4 doors is really difficult and time consuming when loading the twins, after a few months becomes unworkable for day to day life. Every now and again when you go out you think yeah, I love this car, people are impressed by this car and they all think I am successful but in reality you know it has to go and has no long term future.

The car has to go, that is, not the wife. Although it was a really tough decision, a divorce would be too expensive.
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