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Post by GadgetMan on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:04 pm

Then SAY he is. It's the lack of communication that pisses people off. If fox IS The chairman, why not say so? Makes no sense not too. What they put out today re Remi was a good press release (bar the name being cocked up by the social media team, which is sooo Aston villa, how did that slip through the net?) if they spoke more and kept fans in the loop they would face a lot less flak I'm sure.

Tell us who the chairman is. Give us a timeframe for updates. Ie the chairman/CEO will do a program article once a month, every other month etc so we know where we stand.

Personally didn't read the statement as Randy not selling by the way. I read it as carrying on as normal until a sale. Which is what they said they'd do. We get the "I was excited by the vision for the club" speech off all new players and managers, it's standard press release type stuff for me.

Until Randy says "this club is no longer for sale" for me we're very much for sale, we just don't have a buyer. In the meantime fox will keep trying to persuade Lerner not to sell as he knows he won't get near to a million quid a year salary anywhere else. Lucky lucky man!!
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Post by villabromsgrove on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:08 pm

He's praying we survive and he's looking forward to making money on the basis of Fox's/Almstadt's promises. (imo of course Very Happy )
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Post by GadgetMan on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:39 pm

villabromsgrove wrote:He's praying we survive and he's looking forward to making money on the basis of Fox's/Almstadt's promises. (imo of course Very Happy )

Sure. No doubt he's hoping we don't go down. I know for a fact we are still paying BOA/ML to find a buyer, so would be completely foolish if he didn't want to sell at all. Then again it's Lerner so who the hell knows?!

I see where you're coming from in that he probably deep down doesn't want to sell and maybe going through the motions, to appease Lerner trust. Officially we're still for sale.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:31 pm

I see Randy was here to give his regular eight monthly pep talk. Problem is none of the factions could understand him!
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Post by Sandie on Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:32 pm

I'm amazed they recognised him!
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Post by Sandie on Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:56 pm




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Post by villabromsgrove on Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:07 pm

It seems that the vast majority of Villa fans are a lot brighter than our owner and the staff he employs. If it wasn't so damaging it would be laughable.
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Post by Sandie on Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:04 pm

We care a lot more too, which makes it hurt that bit more.
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Post by Sandie on Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:03 pm

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Post by villabromsgrove on Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:13 pm

I think these sort of articles show how little the writer knows about his subject.
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Post by Chris Harte on Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:16 pm

villabromsgrove wrote:
I think these sort of articles show how little the writer knows about his subject.
Nonsense article.

A third of Lerner's 24 points out of 50 come from "Avoiding Controversy" - clearly easy to do if you hunker down in a bolthole on the other side of the Atlantic.

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Post by villabromsgrove on Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:34 pm

Chris Harte wrote:
villabromsgrove wrote:
I think these sort of articles show how little the writer knows about his subject.
Nonsense article.

A third of Lerner's 24 points out of 50 come from "Avoiding Controversy" - clearly easy to do if you hunker down in a bolthole on the other side of the Atlantic.
Hiding behind the sofa 10/10! Very Happy
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Post by Sandie on Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:18 pm

Report from the trust about yesterday's meeting with Fox

On Sunday December 13th, representatives of AVST were amongst a selection of supporters invited to meet Villa’s CEO, Tom Fox, at Villa Park.  Tom had asked that the meeting be convened in order that he could put the record straight in respect of articles that have appeared in the press over the last few months. In particular, he was keen to explain how our approach to transfers works and to give his side of how the fabled “Transfer Committee” actually operates.  As the meeting took place on a matchday, there was limited opportunity for a Q&A session on the back of what Tom shared with us.

It was clear that Tom was not happy with the negative slant being placed on the “Transfer Committee” by the press.  He explained that, essentially, there were three people involved in making decisions on player acquisitions during the summer.  These being Tim Sherwood, Paddy Reilly and Tom Fox.  He explained how the manager identified the players that he wanted to move on and they then set about looking at players to replace them within the first team squad.  Tom made it abundantly clear that the manager had the final say on all player acquisitions and had the right of veto at any point over suggestions made from the Scouting side of the club.  Moreover, he pointed out that this is exactly how most clubs approach transfers, so he was clearly annoyed that this had been spun into something it was not.  He cited the fact that the first question asked of Remi Garde after his appointment was whether he had the final say on transfers as evidence of how this had been spun in to reality by the various articles written about it.

Tom also clarified the role that Hendrik Almstadt plays at the club.  There seems to be some confusion in the press as to what his Sporting Director role entails. Tom explained that he has no responsibility for player acquisitions and that he performs a role here that is very similar to that which he did at Arsenal.  Essentially, Hendrik is there to manage the logistics of the things that support the playing squad.  By way of example, he cited the manager identifying an issue with the medical team.  It would then be Hendrik’s job to look into and resolve that issue.  Tom was keen to make clear that the manager does not report to the Sporting Director, it is a role that is very much to assist the manager and to allow him to concentrate his focus on playing matters.

A brief Q&A followed, where there was comment around Fabian Delph and his release clause (Tom acknowledged that the club should never have let him get in to the last year of his contract in the first place), as well as discussion about funds for the January transfer window.  It was clear that there is an expectation that Remi Garde will do better with our current crop of players than the previous incumbent but that they were not ruling out the need for new blood.

Perhaps the most interesting thing that came out of the meeting was an update on something we had recently queried with the club. This being Randy Lerner’s comments in the summer that, should he fail to find a suitable buyer, a new chairman would be found. Tom advised that the announcement of the new chairman would be made imminently, as well as that of the appointment of an additional board member.

At the conclusion of the meeting it was agreed that events such as this should be held more frequently, and we remind you that the AVST AGM is due shortly, where we again anticipate having representation from the club for a Q&A session.

Interesting that his focus was clarifying the situation with regard to the 'transfer committee' and making it clear that the manager has the final say. I think there's a lot of spinning going on with that on both sides. On one side you have Sherwood and his media mates and on the other you have this from the club. There are two sides to every story and neither of them are going to be completely honest with you. I did read a post on Facebook from a lad who had met Sherwood whilst on holiday and he told him that the club had focussed too much on moneyball methods when recruiting players so that makes it obvious that what the media is reporting is Sherwood's side of the story. What we see may have been the consequence of having a manager who had few practical ideas on player recruitment and too much of the scouting and suggestion being farmed on to the recruitment team?
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Post by villabromsgrove on Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:20 pm

The "transfer commitee" explanation does not fit with the evidence of my own eyes and ears. We know that Sherwood was after a totally different set of players, and we also know that Almstadt who we're are told is nothing to do with player acquisition, had been "scouting" young european players for the attention of Arsenal, and yet Fox did say that his role at Villa was essentially the same (but not that! Hmmm).

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Post by Sandie on Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:15 pm

The truth is probably the one story we haven't heard. It will lie somewhere between what Dim Tim has been saying and what Fox has said yesterday.
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