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Post by villabromsgrove on Thu May 26, 2016 10:19 am

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Re: Who's next?

Post by GadgetMan on Thu May 26, 2016 12:07 pm

I'm glad they're favourites, takes some of the pressure of us

Talking of managers. I think we could hear something today or tomorrow at the latest.....Fingers crossed, just a hunch based on what Dr Xia has said and no 'ITK'
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Re: Who's next?

Post by villabromsgrove on Thu May 26, 2016 1:43 pm

It seems likely to be Di Matteo. If it is I shall watch with interest who his assistant and coaches are. He needs a strong team in order to kick start our misfiring squad.
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Post by Sandie on Thu May 26, 2016 3:10 pm

I saw some suggestion on Twitter (I know, I know) that if it was him he'd be bringing in Eddie Newton and Steve Holland. These were the guys he worked with at Chelsea (and MK Dons and West Brom for Newton) so maybe we wouldn't have the situation of a guy without his trusted lieutenants as we had with Garde and Sherwood. That said, both these coaches are still with Chelsea now having been working with Hiddink so there involvement would depend on whether they are required by Conte or want to leave there.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Thu May 26, 2016 4:32 pm

Sandie wrote:I saw some suggestion on Twitter (I know, I know) that if it was him he'd be bringing in Eddie Newton and Steve Holland. These were the guys he worked with at Chelsea (and MK Dons and West Brom for Newton) so maybe we wouldn't have the situation of a guy without his trusted lieutenants as we had with Garde and Sherwood. That said, both these coaches are still with Chelsea now having been working with Hiddink so there involvement would depend on whether they are required by Conte or want to leave there.
Only Twitter as you say, but it would give RDM a decent amount of good experience in his team.
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Post by Sandie on Thu May 26, 2016 5:40 pm

villabromsgrove wrote:It's an interesting comparison between Di Matteo and Pearson. Their personalities and playing backgrounds are poles apart, and this makes me think that the players they would sign for Villa will be different types as well. Which team of players would be better suited for the Championship, given that they have to gel with quite a few of our current squad?


Here's who Di Matteo signed while at West Brom (I'm just copying and pasting Wiki here):

2009 summer window:
Simon Cox (Swindon Town, undisclosed)
Joe Mattock (Leicester City, undisclosed)
Jerome Thomas (Portsmouth, free)
Reuben Reid (Rotherham United, free)
Youssuf Mulumbu (PSG, £750,000)
Gonzalo Jara (Colo-Colo £3,000,000)

2010 January window:
Marcus Haber (Vancouver Whitecaps, free)
Andwélé Slory (Feyenoord, free)

Loans outside the window:
Shaun Cummings (Chelsea)
Gabriel Tamas (Auxerre, made permanent following summer for £800K)
Frank Nouble (West Ham)
Ben Watson (Wigan)
Steven Reid (Blackburn, made permanent following summer)

2010 summer window
Pablo Ibanez (Atletico Madrid, free)
Boaz Myhill (Hull, £1,500,000)
Nicky Shorey (Aston Villa, £1,000,000)
Peter Odemwingie (Lokomotiv Moscow, undisclosed)
Somen Tchoyi (Red Bull Salzburg, undisclosed)
Marc-Antoine Fortune (Celtic, undisclosed)
Paul Scharner (Wigan, undisclosed)
Craig Dawson (Rochdale, undisclosed)
James Hurst (Portsmouth, undisclosed)

Loaned in:
Carlos Vela (Arsenal)

Bit of a mixed bag there. IMO, the decent players he signed were almost all without exception defenders or defensive midfielders with a fair few dubious performers in attack. Of course, this was when Dan Ashworth was Sporting and Technical Director so some of these may have been his picks.

At Chelsea he signed:
Marko Marin
Eden Hazard
Oscar
Cesar Azpilicueta
Victor Moses
(and some young players that might be his own choices)

Draw your own conclusions from this...
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Post by villabromsgrove on Thu May 26, 2016 6:58 pm

I think Ashworth was very influential in scouting for WBA, and the same goes for Emenalo at Chelsea who came in as chief scout before he was promoted to Sporting Director. I would imagine that the same applied at Schalke as he was head coach there. I wonder how much freedom RDM has had in buying his own players?
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Post by Sandie on Thu May 26, 2016 7:39 pm

It also begs a further question of how much autonomy will the next manager here have? I think it's apparent that Paddy Riley will be shown the door but there has been plenty of speculation about a new Sporting Director or Head of Recruitment replacing him.
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Post by villabromsgrove on Thu May 26, 2016 7:56 pm

Sandie wrote:It also begs a further question of how much autonomy will the next manager here have? I think it's apparent that Paddy Riley will be shown the door but there has been plenty of speculation about a new Sporting Director or Head of Recruitment replacing him.
Didn't Tony Xia say that the new manager would decide which players he wants?
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Re: Who's next?

Post by Sandie on Thu May 26, 2016 10:53 pm

If one believes the papers, they're saying Di Matteo is all but confirmed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/26/roberto-di-matteo-on-brink-of-being-appointed-aston-villa-manage/

Also being reported by The Mail and The Mirror.
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Re: Who's next?

Post by lukevilla on Thu May 26, 2016 11:12 pm

im happy with this appointment but have to ask was it worth getting rid of remi garde surely it would be easier keeping him, he would of know who to keep and get rid off. instead it seems that we have lost 3 months of preparation.

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Post by Sandie on Thu May 26, 2016 11:49 pm

And suffered the abject aimlessness of the Black period which achieved nothing other than pissing off fans and certain players. Garde never was given a chance. No signings in January to stop the rot and I think sadly by the end his position would be untenable. I just hope Di Matteo (if it is to be him) already has clocked the problems and is strong enough to deal with them.
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Re: Who's next?

Post by GadgetMan on Fri May 27, 2016 4:37 am

If (or more like when RDM) comes in, I like you guys hope he has a proper back room team. Who knows thst may form part of the decision making process (you hope it would) and may give him the edge over Pearson who would be going with a completely new team. Let's see huh. Essential he's had a chance to scout the side or at least speak to those in the game and know what needs doing. A lot of it has been in the press re players, so should be fairly obvious.
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Re: Who's next?

Post by villabromsgrove on Fri May 27, 2016 10:24 am

It does look as though there's only one candidate left standing. RDM isn't a perfect fit for our current needs imo, but if he comes in with a strong backroom team he can get on with what is going to be a monumental job. His footballing nous is not in question, but are his shoulders broad enough, is his heart big enough? It seems we're about to find out.
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Post by Sandie on Fri May 27, 2016 1:32 pm

Yes, I'm not sure he's the right choice but I'll support him anyway should the almost inevitable appointment occur.
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